How Father Teaches/ We Sow Seeds
KJV Psalm 127:1 *A Song of degrees for Solomon.* Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.
KJV Matthew 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. ... 4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.
Matthew 13:3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow; 4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up: 5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them: 8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
Isaiah 32:20 Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth thither the feet of the ox and the ass.
KJV Ecclesiastes 11:1 Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days.
Luke 14:15 And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God. 16 Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many: 17 And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready. 18 And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused. 19 And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused. 20 And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come. 21 So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind. 22 And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room. 23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, (of the Internet also) and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. 24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.
Below are a series of letter exchanges to show that Father is the Teacher of Our Family! He is "raising children" in His own style that is not immediately obvious to the casual observer. Heaven is used to help in the "process" and certain men below are also employed to help. No man can or should take credit for the salvation and education of anyone else. Father is DOING IT ALL rather adroitly!
GOOD NEWS to friend and brother X
I thought you might like to know that B and I discuss our friends' needs as we perceive them. Our purpose is not to "impress" others with our personal knowledge to draw a crowd of followers. We do not need the praise of men. We have no need to pat ourselves on our backs. We are no better than the worst sinner or human butcher out in the streets. God sees us all as "one" FAMILY and as such all of us are the same to Him. I have no self-righteousness to boast of, nor any "pride" as if "I" have accomplished something. He did it all as "Clay-master"! God could have given all this to a gorilla, and he would have done it all! You can ask Balaam's ass about that one! We have no dominion over any man's faith. We realize that we are "plants" of God's husbandry, and we grow at different rates and we thrive in soils of differing alkalinity or acidity. He must supply the spiritual sun and rain for growth! What you are to God, you are to God! We cannot criticize the pace of Father's work. "Except the Lord build this house, the effort of men is in vain". With those thoughts in mind we can grow together in understanding and love. I consider you a yoke-fellow and that is all there is to it! God selected you, and He is pleased about it and so am I!
KJV James 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
KJV Luke 8:15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
KJV Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
The sin sick are really "patients" and the Great Physician must heal them, Isaiah 1:4-6, 57:16-19.
We will have patience with those who are coming
up, but we will also try to help them rise higher! We do it all
Here is the link you asked for: http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v1gn/appendix.html. Please do not take B 's words as being directed specifically at you. We have dealt with URs (Universal Reconciliation teachers) before and much of B 's criticism is about them, not you. But you are right about showing compassion and understanding. However some have to be shocked by a two-by-four between the eyes. Look at this:
Jude 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference: 23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
B knows what we have. I do not feel that I am competing with anyone. We are all working together. URs have their place in the stages of growth and God takes advantage of their efforts. Those who are worthy by understanding to receive greater things will receive them when He is ready to give it to them. We are criticized by many for the positive tone of our letters. The Author is positive and the Words display NO guess-work like those who are uninformed. The presumption of many is that God did not and does not speak to men in the first person the way he spoke to the prophets in days of old. However, those who have not recognized Father's voice cannot witness that He can and does speak to those He selects. I have no desire to "convince" anyone that these things have occurred with us. The Words speak volumes for those with ears to hear. You cannot have eyes to see, nor ears to hear, neither a heart to understand until and unless Father chooses you as a guest at His Feast, Matthew 22:11-14. Since this is wholly His work (Isaiah 28:21), I personally have no problem with those growing at His graded pace. I want ALL men to receive and believe, but I know God has other plans. We will be less frustrated if we all see this as God's work and go along with His pace. I see men with talents. Some have more than others. Some are more adept at trading and they will be more successful at finding greater light. Those who are slower and more timid will gain less. Father will say to the successful, "Well done good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a "FEW" things. I will make you ruler over many! Enter into my joy"! I accept His program and go along with it. YOU CANNOT RECEIVE ANYTHING unless He gives it, John 3:27. "Whatsoever is right, I will give"! B is just asserting his personal certainty about what God has given us and he wants nothing less. It was Paul who said all that he learned under his Pharisee teacher, Gamaliel, was counted as dung for the excellency in Christ. B has that "Paul feeling".
Hi, X !
Among many things Jesus was a symbol representing the Father. In that regard he was clothed in the Glory of the Father as an "actor", if you will. The name, Jesus" itself is a code name meaning (I will now turn the keys) "the Father shall save His people from their sins". I can say this another way. Observe! "The Father shall save His people from their demons"! Now whatever image the word, "Jesus", evokes in your mind block it out. See the One on the Throne who is the Creator of ALL! To "atone" means simply to remove sin (devils). In death that is exactly what happens every time! Now check out Hebrews 2:14-15. One of Jesus' many purposes was to SHOW men what happens in death (when sheep are sacrificed) to remove our fear of death. In the process the spirit of man goes to the Father and the demons on the man's body fall back into the pit. This process is the Father's redemption scheme that began with Abel. Because Jesus, the actor, was destined to die in his role for educational purposes, and it was the Father's will to use him for such a purpose, "he had to die" in order to rise and fulfill scriptures in Isaiah 53, and Psalm 40. In Psalm 40 it is written, "I delight to do thy will". In the cold, cruel reality of the earth-stage at crunch time, we find Jesus asking God to "take away the bitter cup" in prayer. He ended by saying, "Nevertheless, not my will, but thy will be done". He could have escaped from Judas and the Pharisees on that fateful night when he was caught, but he stayed and waited to fulfill his role as the Lamb of God. (He even replaced the ear of Malchus that Peter cut off with his sword). So.... all of you are right in your assessments. You are placing emphasis on different aspects of God's use of Jesus the actor and the meaning of his role. See Jesus as a polished diamond with sunlight shining on it. Red, yellow, blue, green, orange, purple, and amber light are all reflected like the rainbow from his polished surfaces. From your position from the north, you are thrilled with the red, green, and blue light. You push that aspect of the man "Jesus". From the east, B sees orange, purple and yellow and he reflects on that meaning of the role of Jesus. He stresses that aspect. NOW see the Father and Jesus, the Son, holding hands on the throne in "ONENESS" like two sides of a coin. You cannot have one without the other. Forget contention and move on. We are all brethren in the FAMILY. Let us relate with understanding and wisdom as we learn and grow in grace! Amen?!
Hi, X !
I think it is best not to focus on ANY specific religious group. URs do have a place in God's scheme of things. You know that and I know that. What "level" that may be is not the thing to focus upon. Our job should be to "purify" and upgrade our understanding to the "perfect" level of God's understanding so that His thoughts are our thoughts and His ways are our ways. Worrying about someone else's personal short-comings too much cannot be constructive. Do you know that Moses broke the commandments for over-concern and anger about the Hebrew's failings? The "elder son" defied his Father and refused to join him at His feast because of bitterness and anger over his brother's faults. This bitterness is a lack of patience and compassion and in itself it is also "sin". Look at this:
KJV Luke 15:25 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing. 26 And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant. 27 And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound. 28 And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him. 29 And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends: 30 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.
KJV Psalm 50:16 But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth? 17 Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee. 18 When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him, and hast been partaker with adulterers. 19 Thou givest thy mouth to evil, and thy tongue frameth deceit. 20 Thou sittest and speakest against thy brother; thou slanderest thine own mother's son. 21 These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes.
KJV Isaiah 66:5 Hear the word of the Lord, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the Lord be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.
KJV Isaiah 45:24 Surely, shall one say, in the Lord have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed. 25 In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.
KJV Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.
As you can see the words of the "elder brother" displayed a vain self-righteous attitude within him.
"Elder son" preachers today have "gone mad" over the failings of mankind so much so that they join the devil in his wish to have men burned in hellfire with him! This is a DIRECT DEFIANCE of God's will expressed in Matthew 5:43-48. It is the devil's exploitation of anger to ensnare the churches, Daniel 7:21-22; Luke 9:51-56. Anger is a VERY BLINDING emotion! Our task should be to put the real truth "out there" for the consideration of others. If they can deal with it and benefit, that is fine! It is a plus for them. If they disagree with it, then they cannot "sup" at the table. We know some can sup and some cannot sup. When we see it, we should not be amazed and over react. This is really Father's business that He is forwarding. We are "helpers". Our attitude must be consistent with the Holy Spirit. "He that has ears to hear, let him hear"! Those without a wedding garment (not clothed with angelic leaders who "direct their path") will forbear because of offense stimulated by the demons who lead their minds. Their own devils will turn them away from reading or seeing the real truth, Isaiah 9:16, 30:8-13. It is not good to attack a man because of where he stands. Attacking the error is another matter, but we should make it clear where we are coming from when and if we do so. URs may attack us directly or privately, but so what? It is like throwing stones at the sun. How effective do you think such an angry man will be? I have defended URs from attack because they are yoke-fellows whether I want them to be or not. God set up this life and its events, not me. ALL MEN as "clean and unclean vessels" are where He wants them to be at all times. Think of us as billions of "pieces" on a chessboard. God moves each piece where He wants it to be as Satan is allowed to make counter-moves with some of those same pieces. This mind-game is complex, but Father is in full control. Since He rewards us according to our mastery of previous lessons He gave us, you cannot expect Him to give a man, who flunked his lower lesson, higher things, Luke 16:10-13. From our perspective, we do not know where our readers stand in this "bigger picture". I would give them everything. God will not do that. If a man has not mastered lesson 101, he will not be given lesson 156 even if GOOD NEWS and X try to teach it to him. When that man masters lesson 101, his new lesson will be lesson 102. This is the way the Master-builder layers our understanding. When that man masters lesson 155, then we can try lesson 156 on him! Look how long the Spirit worked to purge your thinking and drag you up more steps on "Jacob's ladder"! They wrestled your demons and defeated them one concept at a time until they convinced you of the truth and exposed the lies you thought were true. We at GOOD NEWS put the Word "out there". It reached you, but Heaven did all the work! So will it be with all who are chosen to receive. It is like tackling a fish. You throw out the lure and it catches in his mouth. This is rather painful to the fish, so it fights to get loose. The battle may go on for hours or days in the case of "fishing for men". This is the mental wrestle described in Isaiah 28:18-21. Men will lose a lot of sleep by kicking against the pricks! However our angels are patient and skilled in their work. A marlin and a blue fin tuna will but up a tough fight, but eventually they may tire out, and then they will be reeled in. R may be such a fish! If the angels have a lure in his mouth, do you think he can break the line and get away? If he is to come in, the "A-Team" (Heavenly Hosts, 2 Esdras 13:1-14) will bring him in. Everything takes time. We need to be patient with ALL MEN. Every slave of devils will eventually be freed. "There is a time and a season for every purpose under Heaven", and eventually "every knee shall bow and every tongue shall swear" allegiance to our Father! Isaiah 66:22-23; Revelation 5:13.
I think B , X , A , and S . are wonderful children. But all men are wonderful jewels of God. Let us find them, cut them, and polish them until they shine with light. Every jeweler must work with patience and persistence! Remember, Jesus said, "I will make you fishers of men", and now you know how it is done. "They shall be mine, saith the Lord, in that day when I make up my jewels". Right now ALL HUMANITY is a "peculiar treasure". Some men are extremely peculiar because of "beastly" behavior! Praise God!
We must always keep in mind that Jesus was a sign, and a symbol, which represented the Father and God's work. He had a role to play in the Father's education program. Prophets wrote about things God planned for Jesus to do in his stage role. As a symbol, he was the Father's atonement Lamb. John the Baptist cried, "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world"! In the Levitical atonement process the high priest took two goats or lambs. One was a scapegoat to represent the devil, and the other represented God's Lamb, Jesus (or any human being inasmuch as men are cell-members of Jesus' body). The priest took one lamb or goat and slew it for a sin offering, and he took its blood inside the tabernacle and sprinkled it about the mercy seat to show that the spirits of men (the blood) in death are brought to the Throne and sit around it! Hebrews 12:22-24. Realistically this symbolized what the Father planned to do with Jesus in his earthly role as the Lamb of God, a teaching "example". The other goat was not killed, but the priest symbolically took the sins of all the people praying outside in his hands and placed them on the head of the live goat as he confessed the sins of the people upon it. This goat was let loose to roam free in the wilderness. This reveals the purpose of the devil. All sin is placed upon him because God created the devil to be a contrary tool to provide contrast to His nature, http://www.goodnewsinc.net/omega/robot.html. All sin is placed upon devils because they are the perpetrators and enforcers of all wicked works, which we call "sin". The priest let the scapegoat loose to roam free in the wilderness to symbolize what God did to Lucifer. The Father did not destroy him immediately for his crimes in Heaven, but He sent him down to roam free in the bottomless pit (earth environment). So the atonement tells the story of the Father's teaching on the subject of sin. ALL blame and responsibility for all the sins of all the people for all times are on devils! In Jesus' role symbolizing our Father's work of ascribing all sin to devils from the very beginning, he had to technically "remove the sins of the people". He did this by uttering on the cross, "Father forgive them (humanity) for they know not what they do". Bear in mind that all this is role-play to reveal or replay what the Father did in the very beginning. God made Jesus His "sin offering" via the atonement analogy. Death manifests the absolute true way (no symbol here) that God removes sin. In death demons (sins) fall off the man they are in and on to tumble through the "bottomless pit". The Father drew Jesus to Heaven after death and this was to teach humanity what really occurs in death so we would not need to fear it or be intimidated by the thought of dying. Jesus HAD to fulfill his God-given role as a symbol in God's education plan. But keep in mind that the Father was drawing everyone "Home" who died during all those years before Jesus' time. He (the Father) is the resurrection and the life! He is "I AM"!
How did you guys get into a debate about Jesus' role and what it means? All men are saved as soon as they take their last breath. Sin and devils cannot prevent this. Ignorance of God, unbelief, doubt, and devils cannot hinder nor block the process, Romans 8:38-39. Nothing can stop the Husbandman from reaping the fields of men, John 4:35-36. So why debate the meaning and work of Jesus? There are many very important topics to consider. Remember the three blind men describing an elephant? They all had it wrong. What do we have here? ...three righteous men trying to describe Jesus? And they are all right! Leave Jesus alone and go to another subject. There is more to learn than tenets of atonement. What about Heaven and what awaits you when you get there? What about flying? What do you know about meeting your true mate God paired you with from the very beginning? What about the twelve heavens, like twelve worlds or a 12-story building? How about shining brighter than the earthly sun wherever you go? You will never need a sun like this earth has to give you light. Do not get hung up on semantics or tangential discussions that are far from better things in our heritage. Tell me your true heavenly name. Have you heard true heavenly speech? We will commune telepathically as well as by spoken words. What will you eat or will you want to eat any more? You will be absolutely beautiful with power to change form just by thought. There are many, many things to think about rather than to expend energy arguing about what Jesus means. You are one page in the Book of Life, http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v3gn/bookolif.html. We ALL form a Family Album. On what page is your true spirit face? Come on now! Let's move onward. Go to our Heaven site for a change of pace, http://www.goodnewsinc.net/heaven. Jesus is fine and doing very well Upstairs. You need to discuss something else! I still love all you guys!
Hi, X .!
Do not be discouraged. You are on your way to find what you seek. God moves men in the direction He wants us to go. (He holds the "reins"). He has already moved you to the right. Breaking up a false foundation will leave a man suspended and feeling very uncomfortable or that man will fall. Now that some of the lies we all were taught have been crushed and now that some "truths" (which were really errors) you were "certain" about have been shredded, all you can do is go forward and upward. Consider the Potter. The vessel He made had a few flaws that needed correcting. What He did is to mash it down flat and to knead it, and finally He is ready to remold it. If that vessel is YOU, I can understand how you feel, because He did me the same way. Don't fret! Just keep calling on Him! Look at this:
KJV Jeremiah 29:13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
No one said the kneading process would be fun. When His hands flatten us down (humble our minds) we feel great mental pressure and distress! Psalm 18:6. Put your whole heart into it. He reads them!
Your vision (B saw Jesus in the state of crucifixion in a vision) is interesting. What happened to Jesus is a reflection of what happens to men and had been happening to men since Abel became the first "cell" of Jesus' many-membered body to rise. This is how Jesus, the symbolic "Lamb was slain from the foundation of the earth" or at this world's beginning period. Discussing the meaning of Jesus will not help men in general. We need to consider US in the here and now. WE are in a war with the Dragon, and WE as a group are losing. That is why there is so much hell in the lives of men and general dissatisfaction among people of all nations. God has secured total victory for ALL in the final analysis. But those who can see Jesus will find comfort that will show them their destiny. This is God's "show", and He has fixed each man's role in the scheme of things. ALL do His will and cannot get out of their roles no matter how distasteful those roles may be. In Romans 9 Paul teaches us this fact. I am sure some would like the role of Bill Gates, or Madonna. No one would want to be Hitler or John Wayne Gacy. Then there is that cross! Jesus could not avoid it. He "had to die" on it! Men have a problem with the definition of "death". To men in general "death" is the cessation of life and consciousness in which the body rots into dust and the mind goes blank in darkness and nothingness. This commonly held mental-picture of death is a gross error. In "death" God removes His living-spirit child to Heaven and all men see is a body that remains and must be buried, Ecclesiastes 12:7. These newly risen spirits are found "under the Altar in Heaven" complaining about the circumstances on earth that caused their deaths, Revelation 6:9-11. If we define terms, we can show our positions and avoid unnecessary arguments over semantics. Both sides need to know what the other side means by the word, "death". Using the "true blue" definition of death, we see why "Jesus had to die" in order to return to the Father. But we also see B 's position that Jesus "never died" according to the erroneous definition of death commonly held by men. Jesus was a sign and a symbol. He asked the Father to take away the bitter cup, but we know the outcome. He had to DO his pre-written script! Two documents to look at are: http://www.goodnewsinc.org/v3gn/standard.html and http://www.goodnewsinc.org/v4gn/crucify.html. There is a cross given to every human being and a crown of thorns for every man's head. All this means is demons will "double cross" every human being and foul up our minds as much as possible. They slay us in a variety of ways. WAR is like sporting events to them. Babylon loves this sort of thing, Revelation 18:1-3,23-24. A wise man will need eyes from above to see beyond the smoke screen of earthly "reality".
Of course you are correct. But some angels help in the process of enlightening men below. These must wade in the mud of man's mind and fight demonic inputs in mouth-to-mouth combat, 2 Corinthians 10:3-6. God is every human being on earth's surface. Since He is our awareness also, He must open a man's cognition to receive and believe the truth when it is presented. "Faith is a gift" and "it is of God to will and to work His good pleasure in us". Those men, who do not believe and cannot believe despite human efforts to inform them, have not been processed by the Father, Ezekiel 36:25-27. You cannot give them ears to hear, eyes to see, nor hearts to understand no matter how hard we preach, fast, and pray! That is not OUR JOB! That is FATHER'S JOB! In the Song of Solomon the daughters of Heaven (Virtues) are advised "not to stir nor awake the beloved (any human being) until he is pleased (ready)". We now know the "he" is not the human being, but God Himself, who controls that being's consciousness and very life. (All men are really small pieces of God). I see Father as the Chess-master living the lives of humanity, who "appear as separate entities" with free will, even as He is running the program for our angelic teachers. The onus is not on man to "help" or "save" himself. There is no such thing as "self-atonement"! http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/noselfat.html. The Clay-master MUST do it ALL! The order really says, "Do not stir nor awake men below until I show you I am ready"! How does He do this? He does this by making the man ask questions and seek truth; by making him resist evil works and ways that he previously indulged in; by making him think more rationally and make better decisions in his daily life. I must follow my commands to the best of my ability to harmonize smoothly and orderly in the overall education scheme. We work together with the "A-team" members above. Angels do their part, Psalm 91:11-12; Isaiah 30:21. We do our part by merely sowing the seeds. And we will all see what God has fixed in the planned psychodrama of each human life on earth. We must always keep in mind in our interaction with others that all lives are following a pre-written script, Romans 8:28-29, 9:11-21. If it is time to move a man a step higher on "Jacob's ladder" and we are chosen to help out, we will see that man accept lesson 156 and we will rejoice with him!
From GOOD NEWS co-editor
Subject: Measurement: the Plumbline & the Library
To GOOD NEWS editor,
I read a story years ago by Franz Kafka, entitled "The Message from the Emperor". An emperor, who has never been seen, sends a message to his citizens. When the messenger arrives with the letter, he is met with skepticism.
Some citizens say, "How do we know that the emperor really exists?" Others say, "The emperor may exist, but how do we know that you are his messenger?" One perceptive citizen allows that the Emperor may exist and that the messenger may indeed be his envoy, but the message, having passed through many hands and intermediaries, may have become corrupted and changed in the process.
In the "Discourse On Knowledge" essay I ask, "If one cannot understand the full truth now, what makes one think one will understand it later in some distant, undefined future? What is it about this 'later period' that one feels will guarantee that one will absorb the full scope of knowledge 'in the future'?"
The attitude is that we will "know perfectly" in the future. However if people cannot make up their minds now when God speaks to them, what makes them think they will "hear" Him perfectly in the future? Of course my question is hypothetical because we know that they will know... But the question confronts them now - HOW will they know in the future that they indeed will know perfectly then. Just what is their criterion for judging the truth?
Since God uses words, language, human events, trees, clouds, water, etc. NOW to speak to them, HOW will He use anything else to "talk" to them to convince them? And HOW will they know THEN that it is truly HIS voice speaking to them THEN?
We are all in the position of the citizens in Kafka's story. The Emperor is sending us a message...but "the Emperor" is unseen. John said that no one has seen Him at anytime. Does this include Jesus? Jesus said, "You have neither seen His shape nor heard His voice." What is His shape - since He is everywhere in everything! Has Jesus "seen" His shape? What forms of God can be "seen"?
X said that he wanted to hear God speak to him directly. How would X know if God did speak to him? What in X NOW would tell him that it is God "directly" speaking when a year ago he also "heard" God telling him that we were wrong? WHEN will X be ABLE to know that the Emperor has sent a message that is not corrupted or changed by the messenger? What is so different about the future since we still will have to use our minds to try and "see" an infinite God, demons notwithstanding?
It has occurred to me WHY we are here. We are delivering The Message. God is allowing that message to be received in different ways (including some very negative ways) so that those in heaven, who NEED to KNOW that they NOW CAN KNOW EVERYTHING FREELY, can see the process of message delivery taking place before their eyes. We are being used in this timeframe to show the unfolding of knowledge - its measurement and evaluation. Heaven can witness its reception - all the way from negative to positive. They can compare the different degrees of knowledge unfolding, the delivery of the message, the voices and the Voice intoning it, etc. He is lowering the plumb line from heaven, allowing knowledge to be measured in all of its degrees and shades of "justification."
Franz Kafka wrote a novel called "The Trial". One day a man is called before a court to "justify" himself. He doesn't know who his judges are or even what the charges are he is facing. He has to figure it all out for himself. When he figures out his "justification", he will then know what this trial has been all about.
There is more than meets the eye in our struggles to find "justification". I think that God is very shrewdly using us in this timeframe in which to address the problem, "How will you know when I speak to you when you cannot see Me." The GOOD NEWS Library has a purpose.
GOOD NEWS to co-editor
Another thought to consider is "qualification" to measure. Everyone is not a judge, nor do all have the intelligence and wisdom to make judgments although all men make mental evaluations. The arrogance of men is profound in the realm of theological studies and religion. Too many have set themselves up as experts. We should have learned a lesson about how Father does things from the episode of Moses and the rods, and Aaron's rod, which budded and produced almonds! God is the true Judge and that is why He is the best Teacher. He selects His own students and "sups with them", while we try to "build the house" using our human logic and reasoning. But we do this blindly because we do not know where men are in their personal lesson plan and stages of development. I DO want all men to receive and believe the GOOD NEWS. I also know some do not qualify because of certain demonic stupidity held in their minds. First the blocking darkness must be removed and then maybe there will be enough room in their hearts to plant a seed. God is the only one who can read hearts. I think He should and will do His own job .... as Teacher!
Hi, X !
The letters were for B to show him God's way of doing things. I want to share everything I have with every man on earth's surface, but what good will that do if they are "unworthy" to receive it in God's eyes because of some demonic errors they hold in mind which will prevent them from understanding it? I do not know the growth level in God's scheme of things at which any given man may be. It is like building a building with bricks. A man's "wall" on level 1 may be half-laid to brick # 5013 according to what God knows He has set in place. Along comes GOOD NEWS attempting to place bricks 13,456 and 13457 in his mind. They go on level 3. He cannot receive them because they belong on another level not yet built. A Baptist preacher on TV might come along preaching on brick # 5014. Guess whose words God will cause the man to hear and receive? (He takes advantage of everything)! As you can see the Master-builder knows how to build men up in an orderly fashion. I understand the process. I therefore have no intention of arguing with anyone over his faith. I wanted to show these things to B even though he too is zealous. WE cannot open a man's eyes. From above God and Jesus have the right touch to make a blind man see. Our job is to simply spread the Word like a sower. This allows the Husbandman (Father) to supply sunshine (angelic teachers) and "rein" (direct our path) in His due time. For everyone attempting to enlighten others "due time" is right now! "Dew (mercy) time" is right now! But "do time" is when Father decides to "do it" by ripping off a man's veil. This is why "Except the Lord build the house (mold the mind) they labor in vain who build it", http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/build.html. You also understand these things and go along with the program. You will have peace in your endeavors as long as you do things with Wisdom. God has spoken to you, but in the new document, http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/knowldge.html, I was very careful to state that "they do not recognize His voice". (He uses a "still, small voice" in the way Elijah heard Him speak). To be sure God allows devils to speak to us also, and sometimes they pretend to be God, Christ, and angelic Spirits, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4. No man can escape "two ways" Father has set before us, http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v3gn/twoways.html. Jesus did not escape the intrigue on the mount of temptation when the devil tried him! So do not think that the devil will let any man walk away easy! Matthew 12:43-45. We have to learn to recognize God's voice. Sometimes we have followed the "pretenders", and those demonic spirits misled us! Satan desired to sift Peter like wheat! We find Peter denying Christ three times and separating from Paul and the gentiles with him. So just because we say we "believe" and fancy ourselves as "Christians" does not mean that the devil cannot use us as a tool also! Now READ Matthew 16:21-23. Peter was being used by Satan when "he thought" he was expressing love! ALL YOU READERS AND CRITICS BEWARE! I know you have heard God's voice and followed His instructions, or otherwise you could not have grown higher and accepted greater light. You are on the right track. Have faith that Father cares and HE is drawing you higher! He never said for us to seek Him in vain. We will find Him when He is satisfied that we have searched with all our heart.
Co-editor to GOOD NEWS
Some people say that all they can accept from our material is the fact that God saves all men. The rest they can't vouch for it. Somebody wrote me, "You're just speculating about life in heaven."
But consider the following:
If hell is a fiction and to stop believing in it is in some respects a "funny victory", then what else is there left to consider? Where we came from, who we are, who our parents are, where we will spend eternity (with a partner).
Believing in hell is equivalent to believing that 1 + 1 = 3. But since 1 + 1 never did equal 3, once you get 1 + 1 = 2 right, you go on to algebra, geometry, calculus, trigonometry, etc. You don't stay stuck on the fact that you once believed that 1 + 1 = 3 and now you know that 1 + 1 = 2. Graduating from grade 1 to grade 2 (where simple arithmetic is taught) is not considered a major step when you have high school and university (and possibly graduate work) ahead of you!
If "burning children" was never a real issue in God's mind, then our readers should get on with what IS real in His mind. That is everything else at our web sites.
The content God has given us says in effect, once you go up step 1, the other steps are there to continue upwards! Every "rung" on Jacob's ladder is different and goes higher. It does not "level out" and stop as a flat plateau until you reach Heaven!
To GOOD NEWS co-editor
Your assessment of the case for man and the churches is correct. UR's stop at 1+1 = 2, because that is as far as their human teachers have gone. They quote a lot of former writers and push their writings. Many of them are now dead. But when you follow men, you go as far as those men went, and you cannot go farther. Following God means trust and recognition of the true Spirit of God. This is why our document, "Living in the 23rd Psalm", http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/psalm23.html, is so important! Only those God causes to approach Him will be given power to trust Him, John 6:44. These will move beyond the limitations of man's thoughts to the higher things of Father's thoughts, Isaiah 52:13-15, 55:8-11.
From our HEADLINE we see that Father is raising (lifting up) a FAMILY. To do that He has given a specific job to the Heavenly Hosts as well as to select men on the earth-stage. Our cooperation is essential to forward the process so that it works smoothly and our ignorance does not become a source of hindrance. One must first understand how the overall process works to harmonize with it. God sent other laborers into the (vineyard) fields of men beside the GOOD NEWS editors. It is imperative to understand this to avoid unnecessary conflicts similar to the conflicts Abraham's herd-men had with Lot's herd-men. We in our day should have learned from these things so that we can relate as a "loose team" (via the Internet) on a wiser basis.
The purpose of these email exchanges is to expose what Father is doing and to show us His process for remolding the minds of men (clay vessels) still in this life, who are chosen to receive from His table. Because of the many "hirelings God sent" into the fields (as opposed to "hirelings" devils sent), there are many ministries doing their part. Unfortunately we do not all have the "team concept" in mind. Some see themselves as "saving men" and doing a work for which they want credit, recognition, and accolades from others. Can you imagine Isaiah stipulating at the end of his book, "No copies or reproduction of this work is allowed except by prior permission from the author"? I kid you not! I have seen similar "copyright" notices at some websites! There are no "copyright" stipulations with God and the GOOD NEWS, because "all things from the Father are freely YOURS" and for your unconditional use! Human works are from men and may bear conditions for use and copyright notices. This "copyright" business is a "human approach", a spiritually immature approach. There is nothing that approaches a copyright stipulation in all the writings from God except in one book, the Revelation, Revelation 22:19. Still Father takes advantage of all our efforts to upgrade the understanding of His children below. Some of these ministries are 10-talent ministries, 5-talent ministries, and 2-talent ministries. People with one talent may hide it and not share it with others out of fear of objections from men or laziness! Let it be understood that YOU do not have any constituents to claim as your own. ALL MEN are God's children. They are His constituents! Father is the Chess-master and He will move readers in your direction who should receive what you have to offer at your talent-level! When and if He wants to take a specific reader to a higher level, He will move that human "chess-piece" to a ministry with higher talents than yours. The education process is fluid and dynamic. Men move higher and higher up Jacob's ladder from the lower rungs. From pre-school level ministries on the lower steps of the ladder, they move up to kindergarten ministries just a bit higher and more talented. From there they go to grade school levels, high school levels, college levels and finally to perfection. At all these levels there are ministries with varying numbers of talents. Any ministry hoping to upgrade it's self MUST show Father its ability to trade and gain more light. This can only be done without bias and a respect for God's order in His program. "Whatsoever is RIGHT I will give", means He will instill in you greater light when you show Him you have removed doubt, jealousy, grumbling, and bitterness from your heart against ALL others. The ministries are not "competing against" one another. We are all yoke-fellows working together as a team. God READS HEARTS! You will not be given more, if He detects an impure heart in YOU! Those, who can understand God's process and follow it, will be "helpers" along with the angelic Spirits as Father grooms and remakes clay vessels and molds beautiful vessels out of them. Can you say, "Amen"?!